Comments on Analogue and the Processes of Art
I include here a thread of recent emails between myself and my friend Frank. Frank recently returned from a year in Costa Rica, and after a short stay here in Raleigh will be off to Europe for God knows how long. I think its really great that he is willing to just pack up and venture out into the unknown. I guess I'm a little envious of that.
Frank
Hola amigos!
I'm back in the good ole USA and I will be here in Raleigh this week enjoying this 99 degree heat. Anything going on this weekend or maybe a chance for lunch? I would love to see you all and caught up on the latest events. I hate that I only have a week here but I've got to wrap up some things before I head to Europe in July.
I've finally updated the blog. If you haven't see it in the while or read about my near death experience, you should check it out. It will give you a good laugh.
Hope to see you soon,
--
Frank
Every man I meet is my superior in some way. In that, I must learn of him.
-Emerson
Me
Glad to see you survived. There is a get together this friday night at Brent and Becky's. Some wine tasting or something. I guess they live in Durham now. How about you come and keep us entertained with stories of your life in the tropics.
Analoguer Man
Defender of true Photography,
Justice and the American Way
Frank
That sounds absolutely perfect, Analoguer Man. (What does Analoguer Man mean?)
Traveler Man
Defender of Casual Sex
Freedom, Sex & Love
Me
Just another way of saying digital sucks.
Any Analogue process demands a sense of craft, skill, and vision as its measure of mastery. Analogue knows there is nothing easy about conviction, so it offers no shortcuts, no slick algorithms for the lazy, or feeble. Instead it demands knowledge. Most often acquired through struggle and failure. Its secrets contain its power. So Analogue reveals Truth by the glimpse. And with each, the Master extends his vision into the mysteries of beauty. This is the goal of any true Artist.
Digital processes tend to trivialize Art by eliminating the need for any sense of mastery. But this is just another step in the degradation of Art in a Postmodern world. Substance has no place in the world today. Its all about image (Even if it is only interesting or famous for 15 minutes). This is true in Art, politics, and society as a whole. It is like a plague of locusts descending on our culture.
Frank
Hmmm. As a child of the digital age (to coin my own phrase), I understand your point given that we, at least as Americans, are raised in the "now" mentality which anything worth striving for is lost to something else that we can have now.
But at the same time, could one argue that, in the hands of a master, digital photography frees him of some responsibilities so that he can explore and reach further into other areas than he could have before. Similar to when calculators were introduced, in the hands of someone trying to learn math, it becomes a crutch because the student relies on the calculator for simple arithmetic (choosing an easier path than actually studying). But at the same time, it allowed engineers to perform their tasks faster and become more productive.
Food for thought.
Me
The point you make and the example you provide, I would agree has application in certain areas. Art is not one of them. I recall an early argument that technology will be more efficient , and provide us more leisure. In reality, it allowed us to increase volume. Whether that volume of work was actually productive or was quality enhanced is an open question. What we know for sure is much of technology's advances did not create more leisure time for us.
When I speak of process and craft, I understand it to be inherently linked to creativity. Mastering the tools catalyzes aesthetic vision. The extent of creative knowledge grows proportionally with mastery of the tools applied. There is a spiritual, some would say existential element to the making and viewing of Art. In some sense Art is above or at least other than reality. The more indirect the process becomes, the less aesthetic and more trivial the work becomes.
An analogy that comes to mind is that of an architect. First, he cannot be an architect without thorough knowledge and understanding of the processes involved in construction and design. If he relies on templates and algorithms to determine structural engineering, is he really an architect? He may have more time to dream up stuff and try it out, but that is just asking the algorithms to apply their knowledge. He is no more than an evaluator of a programs work.
If you have a vision, and you are limited by knowledge of technique or application of tools. Your vision cannot come to complete fruition. it might be quite beautiful in your head, but chances are thats where it will stay. I can't think of a single instance in creating Art over the last 30 years, where my initial vision did not evolve as I proceeded through the process. Process cannot be removed from the vision. In many ways thats exactly what happens with digital imaging technology. To refer to it as photography is irresponsible and an affront to photographic Artists.
Conversations like this are part of the reason I get kicked out of photographic forums.
Frank
Kicked out of forums? That's great. Good for you.
I understand what you are saying (the verbage) but not having one ounce of artistic understanding and possibly not ability (never practiced so I don't know if I do or not), I do not feel I "truly" understand what you mean.
For example, you say "Mastering the tools catalyzes aesthetic vision. The extent of creative knowledge grows proportionally with mastery of the tools applied. There is a spiritual, some would say existential element to the making and viewing of Art."
I want to propose a challenge. Can you show me or bring a piece of artwork tonight to help me to understand? To see what you see in art or in a piece of artwork. I'm going to the NC Art Museum later this afternoon. (Egyptian exhibit) I don't feel like I have an eye for art but I would like it. I just don't feel like I've ever been moved by a piece of art like others are.
If you can show me this, I may (no guarantees) concede that analogue is the only way to go.
Are you up for the challenge?
Me
Ahhh...Now you are venturing into the stormy waters of Creativity. I don't think I could show you any work of Art and explain it into impacting you in a personal way. I can certainly explain the ideas the Artist tried to encompass with the work, but I couldn't make you feel anything about it.
People intellectualize constantly. I guess thats a good part of it. But its not what makes it important. Theres something else about Art that just strikes a chord in you sometimes. I try to explain to people what its like to make Art....its pretty much impossible. Sometimes I say its like tuning a radio to a static free tone. Its when looking through the lens forces my mind to focus on a single object outside and inside simultaneously. When that happens its like hearing a pure single tone... free from the static of the world. Its really weird.
Its weird that the instant I make a photo, the image burns into my mind, and I can see it long after its past. Its like my mind is the film. A lot of times when I look at freshly processed negatives, I'm looking for the images I saw when I squeezed the shutter. Its not like I want to see what I got, but rather, I want to find what I saw.
The show at the museum will be pretty awesome. But if you ever have the chance to see A van Gogh show. (His work is housed in a gallery in Holland), you should take the opportunity. van Gogh was everything Postmodern Artists are not. He was spectacular. The force of his works are so blinding that it seems like he must of taken his thoughts and somehow smashed them into the canvas. Which is exactly what he did. Many of his paintings were completed in an afternoon... the whole thing. He could do two a day. It was unheard of.
He was mad, pretty much out of his mind... at least in regards to the reality most of us live in. But not so completely, that he didn't recognize that he was going insane. He knew it, wrote about it, and painted from it.
Van Gogh was almost completely self taught. By shear force of will he taught himself to draw. His early drawings look like those of an eight year old. But he doggedly worked the tools and gained mastery through repeated failure and refinement. It took awhile. Few Postmodern Artists would ever have the stamina for it today. And thats because they haven't the strength of will. Why bother when you can move from one 15 minute gratification to the next? Of course when the 15 minutes is past, so has the value or worth of the Postmodern work. Art today changes more rapidly than fashion. It is nothing more than Pop entertainment, and worthless when its time is up and a new "in" thing takes its place.
When I say "Mastering the tools catalyzes the aesthetic", I mean that Art is a process. And performing the activities of the process enhance or multiply ones ability to be creative. Creativity isn't simply something you do. Its something you discover. Mastering the tools of a process gives you a better chance of making such discoveries.
When you go to see the Egyptian exhibit, keep in mind what the tools and processes might of been. Egyptian Artists didn't have Photoshop or CNC machinery. Yet much of the work you see will be finely crafted, and constructed with materials that were meant to outlast the Artist, or the culture he came from, or the cultures that came after. That alone is an idea worthy of consideration. How long will the 1's an 0's in this program last? Where will these ideas be when they are unreadable?
Frank
Hola amigos!
I'm back in the good ole USA and I will be here in Raleigh this week enjoying this 99 degree heat. Anything going on this weekend or maybe a chance for lunch? I would love to see you all and caught up on the latest events. I hate that I only have a week here but I've got to wrap up some things before I head to Europe in July.
I've finally updated the blog. If you haven't see it in the while or read about my near death experience, you should check it out. It will give you a good laugh.
Hope to see you soon,
--
Frank
Every man I meet is my superior in some way. In that, I must learn of him.
-Emerson
Me
Glad to see you survived. There is a get together this friday night at Brent and Becky's. Some wine tasting or something. I guess they live in Durham now. How about you come and keep us entertained with stories of your life in the tropics.
Analoguer Man
Defender of true Photography,
Justice and the American Way
Frank
That sounds absolutely perfect, Analoguer Man. (What does Analoguer Man mean?)
Traveler Man
Defender of Casual Sex
Freedom, Sex & Love
Me
Just another way of saying digital sucks.
Any Analogue process demands a sense of craft, skill, and vision as its measure of mastery. Analogue knows there is nothing easy about conviction, so it offers no shortcuts, no slick algorithms for the lazy, or feeble. Instead it demands knowledge. Most often acquired through struggle and failure. Its secrets contain its power. So Analogue reveals Truth by the glimpse. And with each, the Master extends his vision into the mysteries of beauty. This is the goal of any true Artist.
Digital processes tend to trivialize Art by eliminating the need for any sense of mastery. But this is just another step in the degradation of Art in a Postmodern world. Substance has no place in the world today. Its all about image (Even if it is only interesting or famous for 15 minutes). This is true in Art, politics, and society as a whole. It is like a plague of locusts descending on our culture.
Frank
Hmmm. As a child of the digital age (to coin my own phrase), I understand your point given that we, at least as Americans, are raised in the "now" mentality which anything worth striving for is lost to something else that we can have now.
But at the same time, could one argue that, in the hands of a master, digital photography frees him of some responsibilities so that he can explore and reach further into other areas than he could have before. Similar to when calculators were introduced, in the hands of someone trying to learn math, it becomes a crutch because the student relies on the calculator for simple arithmetic (choosing an easier path than actually studying). But at the same time, it allowed engineers to perform their tasks faster and become more productive.
Food for thought.
Me
The point you make and the example you provide, I would agree has application in certain areas. Art is not one of them. I recall an early argument that technology will be more efficient , and provide us more leisure. In reality, it allowed us to increase volume. Whether that volume of work was actually productive or was quality enhanced is an open question. What we know for sure is much of technology's advances did not create more leisure time for us.
When I speak of process and craft, I understand it to be inherently linked to creativity. Mastering the tools catalyzes aesthetic vision. The extent of creative knowledge grows proportionally with mastery of the tools applied. There is a spiritual, some would say existential element to the making and viewing of Art. In some sense Art is above or at least other than reality. The more indirect the process becomes, the less aesthetic and more trivial the work becomes.
An analogy that comes to mind is that of an architect. First, he cannot be an architect without thorough knowledge and understanding of the processes involved in construction and design. If he relies on templates and algorithms to determine structural engineering, is he really an architect? He may have more time to dream up stuff and try it out, but that is just asking the algorithms to apply their knowledge. He is no more than an evaluator of a programs work.
If you have a vision, and you are limited by knowledge of technique or application of tools. Your vision cannot come to complete fruition. it might be quite beautiful in your head, but chances are thats where it will stay. I can't think of a single instance in creating Art over the last 30 years, where my initial vision did not evolve as I proceeded through the process. Process cannot be removed from the vision. In many ways thats exactly what happens with digital imaging technology. To refer to it as photography is irresponsible and an affront to photographic Artists.
Conversations like this are part of the reason I get kicked out of photographic forums.
Frank
Kicked out of forums? That's great. Good for you.
I understand what you are saying (the verbage) but not having one ounce of artistic understanding and possibly not ability (never practiced so I don't know if I do or not), I do not feel I "truly" understand what you mean.
For example, you say "Mastering the tools catalyzes aesthetic vision. The extent of creative knowledge grows proportionally with mastery of the tools applied. There is a spiritual, some would say existential element to the making and viewing of Art."
I want to propose a challenge. Can you show me or bring a piece of artwork tonight to help me to understand? To see what you see in art or in a piece of artwork. I'm going to the NC Art Museum later this afternoon. (Egyptian exhibit) I don't feel like I have an eye for art but I would like it. I just don't feel like I've ever been moved by a piece of art like others are.
If you can show me this, I may (no guarantees) concede that analogue is the only way to go.
Are you up for the challenge?
Me
Ahhh...Now you are venturing into the stormy waters of Creativity. I don't think I could show you any work of Art and explain it into impacting you in a personal way. I can certainly explain the ideas the Artist tried to encompass with the work, but I couldn't make you feel anything about it.
People intellectualize constantly. I guess thats a good part of it. But its not what makes it important. Theres something else about Art that just strikes a chord in you sometimes. I try to explain to people what its like to make Art....its pretty much impossible. Sometimes I say its like tuning a radio to a static free tone. Its when looking through the lens forces my mind to focus on a single object outside and inside simultaneously. When that happens its like hearing a pure single tone... free from the static of the world. Its really weird.
Its weird that the instant I make a photo, the image burns into my mind, and I can see it long after its past. Its like my mind is the film. A lot of times when I look at freshly processed negatives, I'm looking for the images I saw when I squeezed the shutter. Its not like I want to see what I got, but rather, I want to find what I saw.
The show at the museum will be pretty awesome. But if you ever have the chance to see A van Gogh show. (His work is housed in a gallery in Holland), you should take the opportunity. van Gogh was everything Postmodern Artists are not. He was spectacular. The force of his works are so blinding that it seems like he must of taken his thoughts and somehow smashed them into the canvas. Which is exactly what he did. Many of his paintings were completed in an afternoon... the whole thing. He could do two a day. It was unheard of.
He was mad, pretty much out of his mind... at least in regards to the reality most of us live in. But not so completely, that he didn't recognize that he was going insane. He knew it, wrote about it, and painted from it.
Van Gogh was almost completely self taught. By shear force of will he taught himself to draw. His early drawings look like those of an eight year old. But he doggedly worked the tools and gained mastery through repeated failure and refinement. It took awhile. Few Postmodern Artists would ever have the stamina for it today. And thats because they haven't the strength of will. Why bother when you can move from one 15 minute gratification to the next? Of course when the 15 minutes is past, so has the value or worth of the Postmodern work. Art today changes more rapidly than fashion. It is nothing more than Pop entertainment, and worthless when its time is up and a new "in" thing takes its place.
When I say "Mastering the tools catalyzes the aesthetic", I mean that Art is a process. And performing the activities of the process enhance or multiply ones ability to be creative. Creativity isn't simply something you do. Its something you discover. Mastering the tools of a process gives you a better chance of making such discoveries.
When you go to see the Egyptian exhibit, keep in mind what the tools and processes might of been. Egyptian Artists didn't have Photoshop or CNC machinery. Yet much of the work you see will be finely crafted, and constructed with materials that were meant to outlast the Artist, or the culture he came from, or the cultures that came after. That alone is an idea worthy of consideration. How long will the 1's an 0's in this program last? Where will these ideas be when they are unreadable?


